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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 15:14     标题: Perfect Wave - 2012-1/2 (I)

I am starting a new thread for 2012's first half year (Jan - Jun), including EUR, SP, Gold, and JPY.  My previous wave counts can be found from:
http://www.yayabay.com/forum/thread-165734-1-1.html

Elliott Wave reference can be found from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle

My labeling for wave degrees in different time frames:
Monthly - [[[I]]], [[[II]]], [[[III]]], [[[IV]]], [[[V]]], [[[A]]], [[[B]]], [[[C]]]
Monthly - [[I]], [[II]], [[III]], [[IV]], [[V]], [[A]], [[B]], [[C]]
Weekly - [I], [II], [III], [IV], [V], [A], [B], [C]
Weekly - I, II, III, IV, V, A, B, C
Daily - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, a, b, c
Daily - _1, _2, _3, _4, _5, _a, _b, _c
Hourly - __1, __2, __3, __4, __5, __a, __b, __c

My labeling for wave formation in a segment = Wave Name + Wave Formation
For example, [A3] = 3 segments in a wave [A]
For example, [A3][B3][C5] = 3-3-5 formation for waves [A][B][C]

My labeling for zigzag is the combination of R.N. Elliott's classical labeling and my wave formation labeling.  DO NOT USE R.P.'s W-X-Y(-X-Z) labeling because it creates confusion and lacks the flexibility of changing wave counts.

I am getting lazy on updating the counts because I don't know how many people are following.  I might stop writing this at anytime.  If you are an audience of my threads, please PM me to let me know so that I won't forget to keep you updated if I stop writing.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 15:38

01/01/2012 Monthly Charts

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作者: not4weak    时间: 2012-1-1 15:45

最大能跌到950? 有人说1100啊
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 16:21

最大能跌到950? 有人说1100啊
not4weak 发表于 2012-1-1 14:45


真的呀!?  1100 和 950 不是意義上都差不多嗎?
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 16:21

I just noticed that I had a typo in gold's month chart.

The final target of gold's super bull market could be $1,960.  The extension wave [[[V]]].[[IX]] should be labelled as [[[V]]].[[E]].[IX].
作者: dvork    时间: 2012-1-1 16:25

雪骑元旦就开始乘风破浪的
作者: seagal    时间: 2012-1-1 18:00

去950的红线一看就知道不可能。。。因为TLT还在120徘徊。。。
如果SP500在两个月内从1300跌到950,不会还有人认为TLT也跌吧?
那样的话TLT直冲150+,伯南克和O8估计都焦头烂额了。。。还不搞QE3?
在失业率下降,制造业指数回升,房屋销售数据日益好转的今天,还在梦想1300掉到950的急跌,建议楼主去希腊把总理绑架了,强迫他宣布退出欧盟也许还有点儿可能。。。
作者: seagal    时间: 2012-1-1 18:06

要是主席再画几个蜘蛛网,把SP500画到580去该多好。。。
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 18:34

雪骑元旦就开始乘风破浪的
dvork 发表于 2012-1-1 15:25


偶是很鬱悶
沒好雪可滑
去太浩湖的機票又不能退(要重罰)
只有祈禱盼望暴風雪在二月前能來
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 18:39

去950的红线一看就知道不可能。。。因为TLT还在120徘徊。。。
如果SP500在两个月内从1300跌到950,不会还有 ...
seagal 发表于 2012-1-1 17:00


海娃 - 偶也知道2個月內從1300到950不太可能 偶新年開盤後還要繼續做多頭哩 你沒看紫線有個小凸凸 偶做完那個小凸凸後才做空頭 950目標是一路到年底 (全都是瞎矇胡扯的)
作者: seagal    时间: 2012-1-1 19:26

怎么也得等tlt跌到95以下再说。。。
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 22:24

怎么也得等tlt跌到95以下再说。。。
seagal 发表于 2012-1-1 18:26


海娃 - 偶不trade TLT所以偶不知如何猜TLT 但偶知道 偶沒說過SP會在2個月內從1300急殺到950 大概是你看錯或聽錯了吧  
作者: dvork    时间: 2012-1-1 23:01

回复 9# snowrider


    过几天我上山帮你看看,目前说是只有人造雪
我们一打人是下定决心要用力滑雪,租了三天的小木屋
snowboarding的人可能比较可怜,屁股做下去都是硬冰
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 23:28

01/01/2012 SP Monthly Chart Again

An alternative count:

[[[A]]].[[C]] becomes [[[[IV]]]]
[[[B]]] becomes [[[[V]]]]
[[[C]]].[[C]] becomes [[[A]]]
[[[D]]].[[C]] becomes [[[B]]]
If this is the scenario, we are in [[[C]]] now, and it could go to 550-650 when it finishes.



作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-1 23:54

Waves [[[A]]]-[[[B]]]-[[[C]]] are not 3-3-5.  [[[A]]] is definitely a 3.  [[[C]]] is highly possible a 3 too.  [[[B]]] could be a 3 or a 5 depending on how we see it.


[[[D]]] and [[[E]]] are part of [[[[IV]]]], where the assumption is that they are in a wave-4's abcde triangle.  (See above chart.)

The purple line has the assumption that [[[A]]]-[[[B]]]-[[[C]]]-[[[D]]] have completed, and now we are in [[[E]]] to form [[[[IV]]]].  An alternative count is that [[[A]]]-[[[B]]]-[[[C]]] has completed the [[[[IV]]]], and we are in the early stage of [[[[V]]]].
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-2 00:00

where does your count put the highs in on the sp? i reckon we are going to 1330 ish before trading down into the summer making a decent bounce into end of year


Rothschild - I would guess that SP spot index 1320 area could be where the reversal starts.  We need to pay attention if SP ever moves to that area to see if there is any sign of exhaustion.
作者: seagal    时间: 2012-1-2 00:59

海娃 - 偶不trade TLT所以偶不知如何猜TLT 但偶知道 偶沒說過SP會在2個月內從1300急殺到950 大概是你看 ...
snowrider 发表于 2012-1-1 21:24

你那红线标的,从1300跌到950,我想知道你怎么想的?你标在12到13之间的。。。
不是明摆着1个月内跌到950吗?咋又没说2個月內從1300急殺到950?莫非你坐标的横轴不代表任何意义?要是那样,10年到950和1个月到950,不就没区别了吗?
作者: 棋王    时间: 2012-1-2 01:36

师弟一看要跌的帖总是显得很着急。。。。。。。


作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-2 02:00

你那红线标的,从1300跌到950,我想知道你怎么想的?你标在12到13之间的。。。
不是明摆着1个月内 ...
seagal 发表于 2012-1-1 23:59


海娃你真該配副眼鏡好好看清楚 偶寫著 Monthly Chart 意思就是月線圖 12是2012 13是2013
不要太緊張!  
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-2 02:00

师弟一看要跌的帖总是显得很着急。。。。。。。
棋王 发表于 2012-1-2 00:36



   
海娃好像很緊張
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-8 02:00

01/08/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-9 21:23

20120109 DJIA Worst Scenario


Quote from jas_in_hbca:

Long term EW count question.

Could 1987 be a end of wave 1, (approx) 2000 end of wave 3,
2008 end of wave 5 ?

If so, then could 2009 bottom be wave A , 2011 top end of a 'B' ?
and where would a projected wave C end ?  

Thanks !



jas_in_hbca - It could be.  As I believe and mention many times that anything is possible.
With that scenario, we are going to enter a long term bear market soon.
That bear market could have 2.5 more years to go, and it's final destination of the bear movement will be after falling below 2009's low.


作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-10 11:10

本帖最后由 snowrider 于 2012-1-10 10:11 编辑
20120109 DJIA Worst Scenario
这和你上面的SP的图不大一样呢?


thirdwheel - 這當然不一樣 這張是道瓊指數幾十年的對數座標 有朋友問是否可以如何如何算波 偶回答他可以 並標示出那種算法的可能走法 當然短期日線走法仍然照偶們原來的算法在運行 所以一切是 under control
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-13 23:03

01/14/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-21 01:29

01/21/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-24 00:31

i agree with your projections on gold, but im not sure your wavecounts match mine. i like to keep it simple, so i only use waves 1-5 and then abc.
...


nim1984- Thanks for commenting and sharing your thought.  Yes, I like your idea of keeping it simple.  That is also one of the reasons that I don't agree RP's wave counts most of the time.

...
i think wave 5 of wave A was over at 1522, assuming 1920 was end of wave 3. right now we're in wave B which could go as high as 1760 area. then wave c will break to new lows...maybe mid 1300's?

then we'll have the last wave 5 which will take out the high of 1920, but dont have a projection for it.

note: i'm not an elliott wave junkie. i did this analysis in 10mins looking at monthly chart, just to get a feel for where we are right now in the cycle.


Your scenario is quite possible.  In that case, this big ABC correction is in the same degee as that of 2008 one.  For now, no matter whether we are in a big ABCDE or a big ABC, the medium long term's momentum is heading up.
作者: dvork    时间: 2012-1-26 01:53

偶是很鬱悶
沒好雪可滑
去太浩湖的機票又不能退(要重罰)
只有祈禱盼望暴風雪在二月前能來
snowrider 发表于 2012-1-1 17:34


暴风雪果然来了,六尺深的雪
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-27 15:03

暴风雪果然来了,六尺深的雪
dvork 发表于 2012-1-26 00:53


We will be there from 02/06 to 02/10.  Do you want to join us to ski a day or two?
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-29 00:11

01/28/2012

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作者: 棋王    时间: 2012-1-29 01:40

回调是个买.俺也瞎画了几张,结论和你一样.
作者: dvork    时间: 2012-1-29 01:40

We will be there from 02/06 to 02/10.  Do you want to join us to ski a day or two?
snowrider 发表于 2012-1-27 14:03



今天去滑了,妖受的icy,难怪没几只猫

看看再来这礼拜会不会下雪,不然真难玩
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-1-29 23:40

for gold, you're saying that the c wave might have ended. you have wave a from 1522-1662, b wave from 1662-1625, and c wave from 1625-1738.

however your c wave is only 113 pts long, compared to wave a's length of 140.

c waves are often longer than a waves, going upto 1.618 times wave a, so why do you think c wave will be truncated this time?


nim1984 - Good point!  We don't know if wave-c has finished yet.  That was just my guess because GCG12 is rolling over to GCJ12 now.  Sometimes a reversal occurs around futures contracts' rollover dates.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-4 22:45

02/04/2012

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P.S., I'll be out of town next whole week and won't be able to reply to any PM or comments.








作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-12 16:08

02/12/2012

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作者: not4weak    时间: 2012-2-12 22:33

小雪,去滑雪了吗?

DVORK呢?
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-13 01:25

1) if SPX goes to 1370 first before C5 formed, the C5 will equal C3, or may be great than C3, right ? but we know C5 can't be great than C3 according Wave Theory. How can we explain this?


C.3 = 84 (1333-1249)
C.5 could be: 1300+84=1384 if C.3=C.5
C.5 could be longer than C.3 (as long as C.3 is not the shortest was in C)

2) If C5 is really formed at 1370, the Fib 61.5% pull back target should be great than 50 point, right ?


If C.5 ends at around 1384, the ideal correction target for C is where the previous 4 ends (C.4, i.e., 1300 area)

3) how can we draw the a-b-c waves after C5 (It's not indicated in the chart ??) I mean wave 'b' is great than C5 <-- Does it mean 'extend' wave instead of a-b-c waves (purple lines) ?


The ending of C.5 is the ending of wave-C.  After that a wave-D could be formed.  We don't know if wave-D will be in regular or irregular correction form until we see the market's behavior.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-13 14:07

小雪,去滑雪了吗?

DVORK呢?
not4weak 发表于 2012-2-12 21:33


滑了一個星期的雪
週六半夜才回到家
一個星期沒看行情 真忙
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-13 20:30

I'm a big fan of Elliot wave theory and harmonic trading, however you way over complicate the labeling which deters me (and probably others) from following along. Simply stating the pair and TF (in post) with wave counts 1,2,3,4 a,b,c,d and sub waves as 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d ect works just fine. This, of course, is just my opinion, in the whole scheme of things, it doesn't make much difference.

Big ups for the thread though not many people keep up with these sort of threads. So even if you don't conform to my way of thinking do keep posting charts others will surely find it helpful or at the vary least interesting.


johnny2pips - Thanks for commenting and the suggestion. Please take a look the very first post of this thread, and it will give us an idea about the convention of my wave labeling. It is actually much easier to read and much less confusing than that of most famous EW techinicians. Yes, I agree that "it doesn't make much difference" on different labeling ways because we EW techinicians speak the same language - impulsive vs corrective waves.
作者: dvork    时间: 2012-2-15 03:30

小雪,去滑雪了吗?

DVORK呢?
not4weak 发表于 2012-2-12 21:33


太难滑了,天天在等下雪,一有雪就上山去
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-17 00:52

太难滑了,天天在等下雪,一有雪就上山去
dvork 发表于 2012-2-15 02:30


偶 Tahoe local 的朋友剛告訴偶 今天來了 6" 下星期要來更大的
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-17 00:53

太难滑了,天天在等下雪,一有雪就上山去
dvork 发表于 2012-2-15 02:30


偶們一群去了 Heavenly, Northstar, Kirkwood
作者: dvork    时间: 2012-2-17 04:03

偶們一群去了 Heavenly, Northstar, Kirkwood
snowrider 发表于 2012-2-16 23:53



    连续三天?Heavenly's trails are not bad.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-17 16:34

閒聊

偶說過N次就是不要鎖單(i.e., hedge)
做鎖單的人基本上是最不會trade的 也是最不懂得trading的
一旦一個倉給鎖了 接著就是千層鎖萬層鎖然後是鎖上加鎖
最後會搞的該賺的沒賺到 但做錯的倉是賠的滿滿的
總而言之一句話就是: 看錯行情就應當立刻一刀砍 - 認賠重做
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-17 17:23

有人說: "Must learn how to lock profit..."

偶就說: 如果妳認為要學("Must learn")去鎖利("lock profit") 為何不讓 profit run 呢? 為何要限制利潤的空間呢?  讓 profit run 是大道至簡的一件事就是設個 stop order 罷了 (either hard stop or mental stop)

偶所極不贊同的鎖是去 hedge (古時候那叫做鎖單) 偶不知現在國內叫那是甚麼
基本上鎖單是一種自欺的鴕鳥行為且是必註定成不了好的 trader
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-19 01:06

02/18/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-20 21:33

Rothschild - I would guess that SP spot index 1320 area could be where the reversal starts.  We  ...
snowrider 发表于 2012-1-1 23:00


So you see that 1320 did not show any sign of climax or exhaustion ... and I have been updating the wave count every weekend.  Now here is just my guess that a big correction is going to start this week.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-21 13:12

for gold, you're saying we're in a triangle, with the E wave having started lower. However, the triangle connecting ABCDE you show is neither descending, ascending, or symmetrical. Am I missing something?


nim1984 - Thanks for commenting.  The wave-E scenario was based on the assumption that wave-D must be in a 3-segment movement.  Today's price action shows that the purple line scenario is more possible because our previous wave-D has become a 5-segment wave which means that it is not a wave-D any longer.  Talking about a triangle, it does not need to be perfectly descending, ascending, nor symmetrical, as long as it is a triangle.  Hope this help.




作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-22 00:21

雪骑老大:能否谈一下去年日本干预日元对EUR/USDchart形态有没有影响?如有这种影响是否会随时间而逐渐矫正?

這問題問得好 恢常有深度!  你知道交叉匯率有其自個的走勢 所以當 10/31/2011 日幣超級大跌時 歐幣也被拖下來些 因而當時歐幣的上漲走勢被打斷
本來 10/04/2011 開始的歐幣上漲 本是應當一個新的上升5浪開始 但被那個打斷後 歐幣的 10/31/2011 便成為了一個 B 波浪 (或是一個 X 波浪亦可) 也就注定了之後數個月的歐幣下跌 以便完成 C 波浪 (或是另一組 ABC 亦可)
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-22 00:41

偶像,想不通为啥你预测欧元、黄金涨,大盘咋就跌呢?


Wen2012abc - 千萬別叫偶 "偶像" 所謂槍打出頭鳥 那你知道了吧!  偶的預測純屬瞎猜 矇到了就好 矇錯了就算了 到目前為止好像一切還好 你也許要說所謂的關聯性 那偶就告訴你 東西之間是沒有關聯性的 可以從正相關一夜間變成負相關 所以思考上最好是各東西管各的
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-22 00:44

GOLD的走势 啥可能性都有啊 汗一个


thirdwheel - 那你忘了偶的 preferred count 是什麼顏色的呢?
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-2-25 14:01

02/25/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-3 12:12

03/03/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-11 14:54

03/11/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-13 19:11

这波预测的1400算到了吗?


xiangpang - 現在在走灰線劇本 謝謝
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-13 22:27

本帖最后由 snowrider 于 2012-3-13 22:29 编辑
下周开始熊熊就好过了?

thirdwheel - 這也不一定
現在可能是牛尾 但有多長 偶們不知道
千萬不能亂放空
一定要等反轉信號出現才能空
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-16 00:26

Quote from jas_in_hbca:

[B]bot a few apr 505 puts on aapl @ 2.88

looking for 540 to exit some

nice count . hopefully this 5th wave doesnt extend.

looks like a possible exhaustion gap yesterday on hi vol too [/B]


jas_in_hbca - Thanks!  Yes some people are saying that the release day of iPad3 is the reversal day of AAPL.  Now the wave count for SP is taking the grey line scenario, which it has almost finished the 5-5-5 ... wave.  I am thinking that either tomorrow or next Wednesday the key reversal could occur.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-16 09:43

[quote=2+2=4ex;5482130]Well done on SP 1400. I do not expect it to hold for now either, but do you really believe it will drop below 1300? Not saying I don't think it will or not, just curious about your opinion.[/quote]

4ex - Thanks for commenting.  As you know that my prediction is all based on EW theory, sometimes people don't believe something would happen and I don't believe either.  If the current wave is really wave-[[B]]-[C]-V-5 (most likely ending today or maybe next wednesday with extension), then next leg could go all the way down to 1280 area.  Let's see how the market acts.  :)
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-17 16:08

03/17/2012

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作者: aimei    时间: 2012-3-18 01:36

Laoda is now bearish?
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-18 11:14

Laoda is now bearish?
aimei 发表于 2012-3-18 01:36


是的
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-23 14:30

Opinion is that we are due somewhat of a correction in the SP500.

Nice work Snowrider! SP500 will close the week under the 1400 mark and reinforces the downwards trend.


Thank you Michael.  I am hoping that SP does not make any extension from here; otherwise, the extension could go to 1440.  Let's wait and see. :)
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-24 14:23

Quote from MADASINHATTER:

Yeah i got one.Why do you call it perfect? Do you mean in hindsight? Or is it part of the new world order where you take a word or phrase and use it to describe the complete opposite? Like saying " bringing peace and stability" while dropping bombs on people.Is it perfect in that sense? Where you show that it could go either up or down,on a scale of 1-10 how useful and perfect is that,say compared to just guessing?


MADASINHATTER - I call it Perfect Wave because it is the brand of the series of my wave posts.  I could have called it Snowrider's Wave Analysis (but that did not sound powerful).  Of course, you can interpet the word "perfect" as anything as you want.  The analysis is of some educated guess.  Isn't the whole world making guesses all the time?  The analysis is based on the Elliott Wave Principle.  If you don't know what that is, I would recommend you getting a book and study first.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-24 19:24

Quote from bwolinsky:

What has your backtest showed and what have your results been?

It's apparent some logic's went into the chart drawings, but none placed on any performance summaries or analysis of the data.

Reminds me of Hershyites, must draw straight lines, without questioning whether they actually did go to where they ended when they were drawn or any regard to what actually happened later.

This thread is missing that analysis, and it's required if you expect anyone to really analyze the charts that have been posted.


bwolinsky - I have extensively played system long time ago, I wrote tons of systems with TradeStation, I did backtesting 24x7, and then I threw all my systems to trash can.  What I want to tell you about backtest is ... been there and done that.  If you are asking some trader who utilizes price action and/or pattern methodologies (e.g., Gann, Elliott Wave, Dow Theory etc.) about back testing, you ask a wrong question!

I post my wave analysis here not looking for followers.  I am looking for people who speak the same langauage (are also playing EW) for discussion.  I am looking for people who enjoy playing EW on trading like playing chess.  If you don't believe in EW, you won't be interested in reading my posts.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-24 19:28

03/24/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-25 11:33

有种!
我转了一圈,就没有看到别的论坛有熊帖子。 熊军很孤独!

cowboy - 謝謝 這樣偶就更篤定了 以後就這樣 ... 民意調查的部分就拜託你來做 ... 如果有像這種偶孤獨地對抗其它的大多數 就千萬要告訴偶 (那偶就更篤定了) ... 或是有萬一偶與大多數的人看法一致時 也千萬要告訴偶 (那偶就會開始懷疑自己了)
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-25 15:49

Hi snowrider some great posts on EW well done, some interesting points mapped out in the S&P.... I just have a question... is there any distinction on grey/purple trend lines? i.e one more probable than the other


BoyTrader - Thanks for nice words.  The purple lines are my preferred wave counts, while the grey ones are the alternative counts.  Of course there are numerous possible wave counts out there, and different people have different preferred counts.  I trade to the direction of the purple line.  Once the market reaches some point where the purple line becomes invalid, the grey line takes over and becomes the preferred one.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-25 16:14

Quote from Wide Tailz:

For similar reasons, I have a lot against fundamental analysis.  

EW fits into my trend following system by filtering the buy signals by wave type.  My be$t trades, by far, have been during a third wave (either the general market or the stock itself).

Wave 3 is the first higher low and breaks the previous trend line, and typically follows noticeable divergence in MACD, RSI, money flow, Stochastics, ROC, and any other momentum indicator.  A huge candle as the dam breaks is the final confirmation.  

OP:  my comment for your analysis is that I'm amazed how far you take the corrective wave counts.  I've never had much success trying to analyze them.  I see the SP500 currently in a B wave completing the C wave of next lower degree, itself seeing wave 5 of next lower degree completing as I type.....



Wide Tailz - Thanks for commenting.  Believe it or not, I don't give a shxt on any fundamental analysis.  Ironically, I used to be doing and writting a lot of fundamental analysis, and I knew that it was just like writing some stories because people wanted to read stories.

I strongly agree with you that the best and easist trades are on the wave-3.  About the question how I "take the corrective wave counts", I start from the highest possible degree of timeframe (e.g., montly chart) to analyze and then scale down to the tradeable timeframe (e.g., daily chart).  Therefore, sometime a corrective wave in a monthly chart still has some impulsive wave in the daily chart which we can make money from.  :)
作者: NYQ    时间: 2012-3-26 10:13

要走灰线?
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-26 11:29

要走灰线?
NYQ 发表于 2012-3-26 10:13


偶猜可能是的
作者: NYQ    时间: 2012-3-26 12:41

偶猜可能是的
snowrider 发表于 2012-3-26 11:29



    血骑,你说有木有可能开发出精确制导?你的棋局就算早期GPS啦。
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-27 09:35

有同學問到如何開始學EW  以下是偶的回答:
請先看 Ralph Nelson Elliott  寫的書 來回看透至少10遍以上 熟記所有型態與行為特徵
才能再看 Robert Prechter 的書
Prechter 對於原古典EW有許多的加註 所以他的加註可算是現代版的EW
但偶對於 Prechter 的加註有些部分贊同有些不同意
關於書 是的 英文的是最好 因為中文翻譯的譯者可能會錯意而亂翻
(當然熟讀偶的帖 就可以學習到偶對於EW 現代雪派的加註)
作者: NYQ    时间: 2012-3-27 16:06

本帖最后由 NYQ 于 2012-3-28 06:08 编辑

Snowride: Seems the correction between the two peaks may not bad,   formally start tomorrow?

Change of mind: No longer favor two peak prediction: Kind of believe it will be a continuation rise pattern. Will be clearer in a couple of days.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-28 00:43

Snowride: Seems the correction beteween the two peaks may not bad,   formally start tomorrow?

Cha ...
NYQ 发表于 2012-3-27 16:06


偶不知道呀 目前A股在向下殺 但是偶卻覺得SP要向上走 因為延伸浪的第三小波好像還沒到位 ...
作者: NYQ    时间: 2012-3-28 06:07

Snowride: 目前A股在向下殺--------

A股is more or less a flip over in shape, I guess it will flip back to test previous high soon.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-28 15:59

今日低點剛好打到上升軌 (03/06, 03/23 的低點) 看似這個牛市還沒結束 以波來看
如果 V.1 (03/19), V.2 (03/23) V.3 (03/27) 則今日可能是 V.4 結束 則上去高點不會高過 SPX 1430  
如果破過 SPX 1430 那 就看 V = III , which means a long way up to go
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-28 16:10

今日低點剛好打到上升軌 (03/06, 03/23 的低點) 看似這個牛市還沒結束 以波來看
如果 V.1 (03/19), V.2 (0 ...
snowrider 发表于 2012-3-28 15:59


今日低點將成為多空觀察點 若跌破則不再看短多了
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-29 15:51

今日低點將成為多空觀察點 若跌破則不再看短多了
snowrider 发表于 2012-3-28 16:10


昨日低點為多空觀察點 若收盤於其之上 則將視今天的下影線為洗盤假破 則前天高點仍將再次被試探
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-29 20:44

03/29/2012

Comments are welcome!


作者: NYQ    时间: 2012-3-29 21:39

03/29/2012

Comments are welcome!
snowrider 发表于 2012-3-29 20:44



    So purple is your preference?  I will bet the gray line with around previous peak as the target.  

It will be clear as early as tomorrow.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-29 21:42

So purple is your preference?  I will bet the gray line with around previous peak as the t ...
NYQ 发表于 2012-3-29 21:39


偶其實目前持倉是偏向灰線走法 - 小部隊1個空頭基金2個多頭基金 突擊隊準備做多
作者: NYQ    时间: 2012-3-29 21:46

偶其實目前持倉是偏向灰線走法 - 小部隊1個空頭基金2個多頭基金 突擊隊準備做多
snowrider 发表于 2012-3-29 21:42



    OK, I see. So you just used your traditional way of drawing, purple is not always your prefered way.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-29 21:50

OK, I see. So you just used your traditional way of drawing, purple is not always your pre ...
NYQ 发表于 2012-3-29 21:46


偶這次懶得換顏色了 其實2種的可能都一半一半
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-30 10:43

雪骑的灰线似乎比红线要准。以后可以换换颜色了。

nadia - 其實這也是好事 因為如果你已經觀察出了一個 pattern 不管是正指或反指 那你就可以照著那 pattern 來操作 For example, 如果你發現灰線大部份時候比較準 那你就可以參照灰線走勢

變數仍多 偶雖然中長期看空 但是短期仍然做多 因為這是牛尾
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-31 00:21

...那你又不用任何线线或指标, 就看裸图, 怎么判断是不是向某个方向突破了呢?

問是關鍵的好問題!  這就是要練易筋經或者天蠶神功 練眼力練久了之後就比較能猜出多空關鍵點在哪裡 若有機會翻翻 Elliott Wave Principle 裡面有談到許多法則 那就有所大幫助來判斷多空關鍵點
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-3-31 13:31

03/31/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-4-2 15:11

为啥有个1440大顶...牛市不轻易猜顶是大原则啊@_@

greatson - 玩波就是天天猜 你想想 是神馬時候大家由悲觀變成看牛市了?  大家都認為是牛市的時候 這個牛已經走了一大半了 目前的猜頂不是要盲目的放空 而是一個警戒區 若在警戒區有任何反轉現象 就是空點了 否則就繼續猜上去 隨它牛到哪裡都無所謂
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-4-6 10:15

這是偶在別的地方跟別人槓起來的對話:

老兄我今天赚了钱多废话两句,你的操作怎么总和你画的线相反呢?

yellowstone - 這論壇嗎 就是給人吹牛的地方 你就當偶是在吹牛就好了 :)  你看貼只看表面不看內容 偶SP畫得清清楚楚 這個價位區就是牛尾 不管怎麼走 - 先pop再跌 或是不pop直接跌 - 都是長期下跌 所以在這種地方 若要做多也不過是短打 原則上是做長線空頭的地方 話又說回來 偶的操作 你看到了嗎?  偶的操作貼在HT的401版 偶懶得到處update告訴別人偶做神馬倉 你若想討論 可以討論 貼帖或私信都可以

他总是赚钱的, 你不知道? ...

hq1788 - 小青蛙妳今天才知道 論壇就是給人吹牛的地方 你就當偶是在吹牛就好了 :)
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-4-6 11:33

没觉得你是吹牛,也相信你操作赚钱。只是说数波到底能不能指导操作,不是我看表面不看内容,你图上说到1440,如果信的话1394的时候我是不敢加仓short。
anyway,我数波从来数不对,天资太笨。
今天废话太多,就此打住,大家发财。 ...


不好意思 偶先前誤解你的貼了 因為玩波跟下棋一模一樣 有千變萬化的下法(數法) 偶有一大堆的阿康要照顧 又要照顧長線倉 又要照顧中期倉 又要DT 偶實在沒有想到分分秒秒到論壇上去update對市場的看法 偶真的希望大家能討論 因為偶為一care的是阿康是否能夠月月新高 而一點都不care誰的牛吹多大 最好是大家能夠一塊來下這盤棋 並且大家通通賺錢 所以如果對於市場有任何的看法 偶恢常希望大家能夠一塊來討論 :)
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-4-7 22:21

04/07/2012

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作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-4-8 11:15

子曰既來之則安之 現在讓偶唯一感到不安的是 HT主版上的投票顯示 大部分的人看空了
偶真正希望的是 如果投票是顯示一半看多一半看空 或是大部分的人看多

這種大部分的人看空的情形 對於偶們看空的立場 大部分的情況是不利的 但有2個情況是例外:

1. 市場如果真的下跌了 ... 結果那些大部分看空的人 見到了低點覺得可以搶地鋪 他們又轉為看多時 ... 那就是對於偶們這些真正看空的人的一個大好劇情 ... 希望在這新的一週的某一天 市場能夠做出一個落底結束的假象 ... 以便騙騙一些人轉頭看多 ... 到時就是真的殺盤要來了

2. 或是市場如果真的下跌了 ... 結果那些大部分看空的人還是賺不到 ... 因為不會有太多的人在上週長假之前建空倉 ... (若真有 要不就是半桶水沒有風險意識 要不就是真高手) ... 所以當市場週一開盤大跌時 沒有人會有勇氣去追空 ... 結果市場卻一瀉千里之外 ... 所以 那些大部分看空的人還是賺不到

結論 - 一般來說大部分的人的看法肯定是錯的 市場不會這麼容易 讓大部分的人賺到錢的 所以如果偶們看空是對的 那麼市場必須要有以上2種其中的一種走法
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-4-8 21:14

本帖最后由 snowrider 于 2012-4-8 21:16 编辑
Quote from ScalperJoe:

snowrider,

I am discussing the current waves with trader collegue regarding the S&P, and we have come to the following conclusion that Wave 5 of Wave 3 has completed, and the S&P is currently in Wave 4.  I've also read and heard that Wave 4 of the larger pattern already occurred, however our analysis is there has not been any significant pullback to justify a completed Wave 4.

Our wave counts of the larger pattern (weekly chart):

Wave 1 from 1,075 to 1,293

Wave 2 from 1,293 to 1,159

Wave 3 from 1,159 to 1,422

Wave 4 will result in a choppy "A-B-C" pattern, perhaps stalling around 1,320 (38.2% fib of Wave 3), although holding well above the top of Wave 1 at 1,293.

Then a rebound Wave 5 pattern which will break the top of Wave 3 of 1,422, hence completing the 5 wave pattern that began on October.  

A larger correction (perhaps 50%) of the completed 5 wave pattern will create the next big buying oppourtunity.

Please provide feedback/comments to this analysis, thanks.



ScalperJoe- Thanks for sharing your thought.  That scenario is a good and valid one.  Please see attached wave count.  Your wave count is labeled there as [A][B][C][D][E] in green line alternative count.  Currently my preferred count is that a wave-[[B]] (which is your wave-3) has ended, and a big collapse all the way to 960 area in the end of this year is underway.  I will pay very close attention if SP ever goes to 1320 area to see if it has any sign of bottoming there.  The 1320 area will be the cross road between a real collapse or a final leg up.


作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-4-8 21:43

...
One question for you is that you think we are still in the wave 4 from peak of 2000? What formation will this wave 4 take?
...


busted - Thanks for commenting.  Yes, I agree with you (kind of) that EW "is very complicated".  But I would like to say that it is very easy to use in trading (because EW has some rules for validating a wave).  About your question if "we are still in the wave 4 from peak of 2000", that is what my assumption for labelling 667 (2009) as [[[C]]] is based on.  With that assumption, the "wave 4" is in the formation of a huge triangle.  About QE3, I don't care, and I never care any FA stuff.
作者: snowrider    时间: 2012-4-9 11:22

  现在从大浪上看:普遍认为是ABC调整浪,还是I,II,III,。。 上升浪? 我想说的是2009 三月以来浪的普遍说法。


Wen2012abc - 若是妳問網路上其它玩波的人的看法 他們大部分是看空頭市場下跌的第1大浪已經在2007開始 而從2009以來的是第2大浪
若是妳問偶的看法 偶是猜一個超大三角型調整浪是從2000以來 而從2009以來的是這個三角形的第d大浪




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